Peter Brown Family History

Thomas Payne (1601) & Elizabeth Dungate

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General History

Thomas Payne & Elizabeth Dungate were one of my 11th generation ancestors.

Key Dates:

Thomas Payne was probably born on 17th June 1601 in West Hoathly, Sussex (see Archives-PM Inquest of his father). He was the son of John Payne of Stonelands . He lived at Stonelands in West Hoathly. He married Elizabeth Dungate on 4th March 1621 in West Hoathly, Sussex (license issued at Lewes on 2nd March with surety by William Bates and both shown as of West Hoathly). Thomas left a 'Will' dated 19th June 1628 and was buried on 30th June 1628 in West Hoathly, Sussex ('of Stoneland-married man').

Elizabeth Dungate birth details are not known, but she was possibly born in about 1597 possibly in West Hoathly, Sussex and she was probably the daughter of Thomas Dungate & Catherine (but she could possibly be daughter of another Dungate).

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Thomas & Elizabeth had maybe six children (or possibly five).

John Thomas Anne Bridget Katherine Thomas
  1. John Payne was possibly born in about 1621 probably in West Hoathly, Sussex (derived as no birth record found). John was mentioned in his father's 'Will' of 1628 (as under 21). He married Ann Comber on 5th June 1649 in Cuckfield, Sussex (marriage also recorded in West Hoathly on IGI). Ann was the daughter of Thomas Comber, the son of Thomas Rivers Comber (see Thomas Comber & Ann Burstow- family ref 1B). John was overseer to 'brother' John Feldwick's 'Will' of 1662 and to 'cousin' Sarah Comber's 'Will' of 1662 and to his sister Anne Feldwick's 'Will' of 1669. He also administered the estate of Thomas Comber of Philpotts in 1673. He married secondly Mary Nicholas , the daughter of Abraham Nicholas (he was mentioned in John Payne's 'Will' of 1673 as 'father in law'). John left a 'Will' dated 26th October 1673 and died prior to July 1674. John & Ann (or maybe Mary) had two children.
    1. John Payne was maybe possibly born in about 1653 possibly in West Hoathly, Sussex. He was mentioned in his father's 'Will' of 1673 as under 21 and he inherited all his father's lands (Stonelands, Ashcombe, Simmes, Strudgate, Willards Bridge & Scripps).
    2. Elizabeth Payne was maybe possibly born in about 1655, possibly in West Hoathly, Sussex. She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1673 as under 21.
  2. Thomas Payne was baptised on 11th July 1622 in West Hoathly, Sussex. Thomas died before 1628. (Note: may be an error in records and should be John as no burial recorded of Thomas and no baptism of John recorded)
  3. Anne Payne was baptised on 23rd May 1624 in West Hoathly, Sussex. She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1628 as under 20 and unmarried. She married John Feldwick. Details of John Feldwick & Anne Payne are shown separately as they are direct ancestors.
  4. Bridget Payne was baptised on 23rd May 1624 in West Hoathly, Sussex. (Note: unsure of source- not shown in Parish Register. She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1628 as under 21 and unmarried. She possibly married Richard Gaston on 5th May 1646 in West Hoathly, Sussex.
  5. Katherine Payne was baptised on 14th June 1626 in West Hoathly, Sussex. She was mentioned in her father's 'Will' of 1628 as under 20 and unmarried. She was mentioned in her sister Anne Feldwick's 'Will' of 1669.
  6. Thomas Payne was baptised on 12th March 1628 in West Hoathly, Sussex. He was mentioned in his father's 'Will' of 1628 as under 21 and inherited lands called "Ashcombe".

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John Payne 1621:

He owned lands in West Hoathly known by the names of Stonelands, Ashcombe, and the Simmes together with the parsonage tythes. (Stonelands & Simmes he had inherited from his father with the parsonage thythes. Ashcombe had originally been inherited by his brother Thomas). He owned lands in Worth which he bought from Sir William Cullpepper, Barronett, called by the name of Strudgate. He owned land lying in the parish of East Grinsted called by the name of Willards Bridge. He owned lands in the parish of Lindfield called by the name of Scripps which he had bought from his father in law Abraham Nicholas.

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Wills:

  1. Thomas Payne (family ref top) left a 'Will' that was dated 19th July 1628 and was proved on 6th November 1628. The link is to a transcript of the 'Will'. In the 'Will' he mentions his wife Elizabeth (executor), his brother Edward Payne (Overseer); his brother in law John Dungate (Overseer); his sons John & Thomas (both under 21); his daughters Anne, Katherine & Bridget (all under 21); his uncles William Bates & George Payne; his servants Marie Page, Richard Gaston, Henrie Butt; his godchildren Elizabeth Jenor, Sara Gatland and Anne Wheeler; Witnesses were Henrie Faulkner & Richard Teynton.
  2. John Payne (family ref 1) left a 'Will' that was dated 20th October 1673 and was proved on 9th July 1674 (Ref Lewes A34.P14). The link is to a transcript of the 'Will'. In the 'Will' he mentions his wife Mary; his son John (under 21); his daughter Elizabeth (under 21); his father in lawe Abraham Nicholas; his kinsman John Feldwick (executor); his brother in law Abraham Nicholas the younger (executor); witnesses were John Mills, John Pryor. Places mentioned were Stonelands, Ashcombe, Simmes, Strudgate, Willards Bridge & Scripps.

Archives:

  1. PM Inquisition: JOHN PAINE 1613. Vol. 338, No. 39. E. G., 7 Oct. 11 James (ie 1613). The link is to a transcript of the PM Inquisition. Died 21 May 1602. Heir, son Thomas Paine, aged 12 years 3 months 20 days at Inq. Lands. " Stoneland Breaches" & "Long Crofte or Simmes Croftes" in West Hoathly.
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  1. Sussex Genealogies  (Ardingly Centre) - John Comber 1932
  2. Sussex Record Society -  East Grinstead Parish Registers 1558-1661:
  3. Sussex Parish Registers –Ardingly, Cuckfield, East Grinstead, Lindfield, West Hoathly
  4. Sussex Record Society – Marriage Licenses at Lewes 1586-1642,1670-1732, 1772-1837 (Volumes 1, 6, 25,26)
  5. Lewes Will Microfilm
  6. Sussex Family History Group-Sussex Marriage Index CD
  7. Sussex Family History Group - Baptism & Burial records
  8. Sussex Record Society - PM Inquistions summaries
  9. IGI (International Genealogical Index: Latter-day Saints) - batches of parish records: see LINKS-Research Web sites